Lest you think all I do is snark about my employer (and I don't; I'm more than willing to snark about anyone's employer albeit sometimes with the snarkee being anonymous), allow me to opine on two separate customer service experiences I've had recently, both automated and both telephonic.
Now I'm not usually a huge fan of automated customer service, not because I'm a technophobe, but because they're so rarely done well. I particularly hate voice mail trees. Oh sure they're sold internally as a customer service, "so that consumers are directed to the correct department", but we all know that they are usually extremely frustrating. The thing that galls me the most is the widely held opinion inside firms that everybody else's voice mail tree is voice mail hell, but ours is OK. If you don't like them when you call your phone company, why do you inflict the same thing on your customers?
OK, scenario one - the good one (change of pace!!) is CIGNA's Tel-drug prescription ordering system. Obviously someone took the time to actually use this before installing because it has just the right little touches and ease-of-use to be really good. Everything is logically explained, prompts make sense and actions are acknowledged. Additionally they add touches like "if you want to order another refill, press 1, if not, press 9"; normally it'd be press 1 for yes or 2 for no, but asking you to press 9 prevents you from accidentally pressing the wrong key. I know you're thinking "big deal", but when it come to things like automated customer service if you want people to use it and not feel abused by it, you really have to pay attention to the details.
Which brings us to scenario two - the bad one. Here I'll name names, Fidelity Investments, because I didn't ask to open an account there, my kid's 529 plans were moved there by the State of California. Never having done business with Fidelity before, I had a pretty good impression of them. Now, not so much.
First, I have two separate accounts for two separate children. Fidelity makes me activate each account before I can do anything. OK. I go through the 5 pages of information for the first one and the system blows up. Fine, glitches happen. Do it again - same result. I wait until the next day to try again and this time it works. Probably overloaded from everyone whose plan moved. I'm ready to start using my accounts - wait what's this? Only one is activated? Hmm. OK, I'll go through the steps again because surely all the information I filled out before (address, employer, etc) will be pre-filled, right? Wrong. Look, if I wasn't the same person that filled out the info before, why is this my account?
And I haven't got the telephony part yet. The on-line system doesn't let me do something fairly minor but asks me to call their 800 customer service line. You know the drill - "Please say or enter your social security number", cool- voice recognition! so after the pause I start to speak. She's not done speaking yet: "If you are using a customer identification number instead, you can enter that". Naturally since she and I are speaking at the same time my SS# isn't recognized. Now who inserts a pause long enough between those two phrases that the listener is faked out? So I do it again, correctly, after the second pause and after going through the tree and deciding that none of those options will fix my issue, they finally connect me to a rep. Who asks my account number.
Oh, and just one more - this one is short (I know I said two, sue me). I have about three or four different Earthlink accounts for different websites and such. Every once in a while they send an e-mail telling me account # such and such has a credit card expiring, please log on and fix it. Here's the thing - when you log on to Earthlink's My Account page there's nowhere to enter the account number - it asks for your e-mail address. Well my e-mail address points to only one of the accounts and there's no way to change that. Why bother to tell you to fix this account number on-line if you can't access it by account number?
Yes, automated systems can save money, but if you want customers to actually use them, rather than automatically hitting "0", you have spend some time to make them user-friendly, a greatly overused phrase but greatly underutilized action.
Thursday, December 14, 2006
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
What we have here is a failure to Communicate
Folks, it's all about communication. So, we're still working on the billing issue I talked about a couple of posts ago. In the conference call with the client we promised that we'd have the billing corrected and a complete audit of bills sent and money received by last Friday. Friday at 3 PM, I get a call telling me that it's not going to happen until Tuesday. Remember, the original conference call was a week and a half ago. Did they just discover Friday that it wasn't gonna happen? I'm guessing that's not the case. They should have let me know it wasn't going to happen when they first realized it. Client is beside herself.
Okay, so now it's Tuesday, the drop dead date for this fricking billing, and a cast of thousands have been huddled in a conference room all day, after having worked on it over the weekend, and I get a call at 12:30 my time (I'm on the West Coast, the cast of thousands on the East Coast) telling me they'll be back to me within the hour with the final result. BTW, why this is taking so many people so long on what should be a fairly simple issue (after all, billing for product should be something we do routinely, no?) escapes me.
The afternoon passes - I got nothing. At 2:30 (5:30 EST) and every 15 minutes thereafter I call the 3 principal players and get no answer. Leave messages. Nothing. At 4:35 (7;35 EST) I fire off a scathing memo to my boss because I, naturally, assume that everyone has bolted and they were too scared to call and tell me they were packing it in for the evening. I'm pissed and call the client to tell her that we have, once again, missed the deadline.
While I'm on the phone with the client at 5:10 (8:10 EST) I get a call from my HO and it's half the cast of thousands to tell me they've got something. Now of course your initial inclination is to say, "Wow, Rich they stayed till eight o'clock to make the deadline", and normally I'd agree with you.
But.
Number one - I'm out here, by myself, freaking out all afternoon not knowing what's going on. Communication. I should have gotten a call (or 2) telling me they were still working, so I knew and could tell the client. Instead, my blood pressure is through the roof.
Number two - did I get what we needed? Well, of course you know the answer to that - No. The audit we promised them a week and a half ago? Not until Friday at noon. Why? "Because this is a lot more involved than we realized." And you just realized that it was "involved" now, at 5:30 on Tuesday? Communication.
And the icing on the cake was when, after I complained about missing the deadlines, I start to get a lecture about "managing expectations". Please. Tell me something's gonna take two weeks, I'm fine. I'll make sure the client understands and usually I'll get us a few more days. But I'm not the one that told the client when this would be done - HO did in the conference call and follow-ups.
Point of this is that when you're not going to get something done when promised, let everyone know as soon as you know that. People understand. Everyone gets in these situations - things interfere, problems arise, systems go down. It happens. But you've got to let everyone know. You've got to communicate. The problems end up to be far worse if you don't.
Okay, so now it's Tuesday, the drop dead date for this fricking billing, and a cast of thousands have been huddled in a conference room all day, after having worked on it over the weekend, and I get a call at 12:30 my time (I'm on the West Coast, the cast of thousands on the East Coast) telling me they'll be back to me within the hour with the final result. BTW, why this is taking so many people so long on what should be a fairly simple issue (after all, billing for product should be something we do routinely, no?) escapes me.
The afternoon passes - I got nothing. At 2:30 (5:30 EST) and every 15 minutes thereafter I call the 3 principal players and get no answer. Leave messages. Nothing. At 4:35 (7;35 EST) I fire off a scathing memo to my boss because I, naturally, assume that everyone has bolted and they were too scared to call and tell me they were packing it in for the evening. I'm pissed and call the client to tell her that we have, once again, missed the deadline.
While I'm on the phone with the client at 5:10 (8:10 EST) I get a call from my HO and it's half the cast of thousands to tell me they've got something. Now of course your initial inclination is to say, "Wow, Rich they stayed till eight o'clock to make the deadline", and normally I'd agree with you.
But.
Number one - I'm out here, by myself, freaking out all afternoon not knowing what's going on. Communication. I should have gotten a call (or 2) telling me they were still working, so I knew and could tell the client. Instead, my blood pressure is through the roof.
Number two - did I get what we needed? Well, of course you know the answer to that - No. The audit we promised them a week and a half ago? Not until Friday at noon. Why? "Because this is a lot more involved than we realized." And you just realized that it was "involved" now, at 5:30 on Tuesday? Communication.
And the icing on the cake was when, after I complained about missing the deadlines, I start to get a lecture about "managing expectations". Please. Tell me something's gonna take two weeks, I'm fine. I'll make sure the client understands and usually I'll get us a few more days. But I'm not the one that told the client when this would be done - HO did in the conference call and follow-ups.
Point of this is that when you're not going to get something done when promised, let everyone know as soon as you know that. People understand. Everyone gets in these situations - things interfere, problems arise, systems go down. It happens. But you've got to let everyone know. You've got to communicate. The problems end up to be far worse if you don't.
Monday, December 04, 2006
De-Motivating Sales Reps
I know you're thinking "Jeez, what a stupid title, who'd want to de-motivate a Sales Rep?" The original title was Why Salespeople Don't Sell but then I realized that there was a whole myriad of reasons that could be true (personal problems, looking for another position, just isn't good at her job, etc) so I decided to focus on the one area you, as a corporate executive, have some control over - keeping reps motivated, or rather not actively de-motivating them.
Now I know it'd be stupid to actively try to encourage a Sales Rep to not sell and of course most de-motivation is inadvertent. It's well known that professional Sales Reps can only be effective when they believe in what they're selling. The opposite of that is true, too: if I don't believe in what I'm selling, I'm either A.) not going to be very good at it or B) I won't sell it at all. So, as noted in the previous post, things happen that cause reps to believe that the things they're supposed to be selling are lies. I clearly won't be trying to get business from that client for a while, because they won't believe what I'm supposed to tell them and neither will I.
Am I going to cut out selling every time the billing goes sideways or some customer service reps have a bad day? Of course not. If that was the case no one would ever sell anything. Accidents happen. If, OTOH, the billing issues, service problems, product failures or brain-deadness of the organization is an on-going and constant thing, you can be damn sure that your reps will shut down (and look for a way out). Again, I'd hope that if these problems were that bad, they'd be apparent to you and you'd have them fixed, however knowing the speed with which a giant organizational ship can be turned, sometimes even knowing the problems isn't enough. And then there are those firms that refuse to address the problems. The situation noted in the prior post (and I would venture to say, most good large corporations) fall into the former category. We know we've got issues; it's just that addressing them takes time and resources. In the meantime, no sales, because the reps aren't willing to throw their reputations under the bus. And note: asking a salesperson to burn their reputation so that you can get some sales is a surefire way to lose reps rather than gain sales.
Back to the issue of those that refuse to address the problem, let me pass along an anecdote from an an anonymous correspondent. This woman works for a firm that produces tradeshow graphics and booths. Now in her business everything is time-sensitive (getting the booth the week after the show is kind of a non-starter), so her clients are very specific as to when and how the products are delivered. The problem is that the boss is very scattered, disorganized and consistently over-promises and under-delivers. So the rep will have an order due, say, December 6th at 5PM. On the morning of December 6th, the boss will clear all the scheduled jobs in order to rush through the one that either he A) promised and forgot about or B) thinks is more important. The rep's job is now late. As before, if this was a once-in-a-while problem, no big deal, but at her firm it happens so often (and no one dares confront the boss) that she can never be sure that the promises she makes can be kept. She can never be sure that the job will be done on time. How can someone sell in that situation?
The bottom line is that, as a rep with any sort of pride, we need to be able to deliver what we promise on a fairly regular basis. That's what our clients count on and that's what our reputations are built on. If we don't believe that our promises will be kept, we won't be able to make them, and that's really all sales is - making a promise we know will be kept. If you can't make that happen for us, we can't sell for you.
Now I know it'd be stupid to actively try to encourage a Sales Rep to not sell and of course most de-motivation is inadvertent. It's well known that professional Sales Reps can only be effective when they believe in what they're selling. The opposite of that is true, too: if I don't believe in what I'm selling, I'm either A.) not going to be very good at it or B) I won't sell it at all. So, as noted in the previous post, things happen that cause reps to believe that the things they're supposed to be selling are lies. I clearly won't be trying to get business from that client for a while, because they won't believe what I'm supposed to tell them and neither will I.
Am I going to cut out selling every time the billing goes sideways or some customer service reps have a bad day? Of course not. If that was the case no one would ever sell anything. Accidents happen. If, OTOH, the billing issues, service problems, product failures or brain-deadness of the organization is an on-going and constant thing, you can be damn sure that your reps will shut down (and look for a way out). Again, I'd hope that if these problems were that bad, they'd be apparent to you and you'd have them fixed, however knowing the speed with which a giant organizational ship can be turned, sometimes even knowing the problems isn't enough. And then there are those firms that refuse to address the problems. The situation noted in the prior post (and I would venture to say, most good large corporations) fall into the former category. We know we've got issues; it's just that addressing them takes time and resources. In the meantime, no sales, because the reps aren't willing to throw their reputations under the bus. And note: asking a salesperson to burn their reputation so that you can get some sales is a surefire way to lose reps rather than gain sales.
Back to the issue of those that refuse to address the problem, let me pass along an anecdote from an an anonymous correspondent. This woman works for a firm that produces tradeshow graphics and booths. Now in her business everything is time-sensitive (getting the booth the week after the show is kind of a non-starter), so her clients are very specific as to when and how the products are delivered. The problem is that the boss is very scattered, disorganized and consistently over-promises and under-delivers. So the rep will have an order due, say, December 6th at 5PM. On the morning of December 6th, the boss will clear all the scheduled jobs in order to rush through the one that either he A) promised and forgot about or B) thinks is more important. The rep's job is now late. As before, if this was a once-in-a-while problem, no big deal, but at her firm it happens so often (and no one dares confront the boss) that she can never be sure that the promises she makes can be kept. She can never be sure that the job will be done on time. How can someone sell in that situation?
The bottom line is that, as a rep with any sort of pride, we need to be able to deliver what we promise on a fairly regular basis. That's what our clients count on and that's what our reputations are built on. If we don't believe that our promises will be kept, we won't be able to make them, and that's really all sales is - making a promise we know will be kept. If you can't make that happen for us, we can't sell for you.
Friday, December 01, 2006
Lose the Attitude or Lose the Client
I want to share something that happens to Sales Reps waaaaay too often.
I have a client with a billing problem and she's been trying to work it out with the Home Office for 2 1/2 weeks. This is not a little billing problem, this is a really big billing problem and it's an important client. Here's my first concern - guess how I found out about this? That's right - the client emailed me. I should not be finding out about these things from my clients. Too much trouble for the HO to shoot me a note or call me to say "We've got a problem on XYZ Co., this what it is and we're working on it and will let you know if you need to do anything"? Now, I don't want to hear about every little problem but please use a little common sense to say "Rich needs a heads-up on this" for the big things. This lack of communication makes us both look like idiots.
But wait - there's more. We had a conference call, me, the client and four (count 'em) Home Office staff. Good thing I was there to referee, because the HO people were very defensive about how they'd done things. Apparently, it was the client's fault for not understanding how we were charging them. Notwithstanding the fact that a lot of the charges made no logical sense or that nowhere did we attempt to explain how we arrived at these odd numbers. Clearly, the client was wrong and they should just take our word for it that the charges were correct. Guess what didn't happen.
OK, let me make this perfectly clear: the client is not lucky that we let them do business with us, we are lucky that they have chosen to do business with us. I have seen this attitude for years, at many different companies, that somehow our clients should be thrilled that we allow them to buy our products. Where does that come from and how does it possibly make sense?
We shouldn't put people in a position that they need to change their procedures to match our internal processes. We should know what the clients need and expect. We should be accommodating to them, not the other way around.
There are very few companies in the world who make or do something so unique that a client can't go elsewhere, and get something just (or almost) as good without the condescending attitude. Everyone does it all the time - Bank of America treats you badly? Well, Washington Mutual is right down the street. Is Cingular constantly overcharging you? Switch to T-Mobile. The point is that if your employees are doing that to your clients, your clients will leave. And my reputation gets tarnished in the meantime and, really, that's all I have.
</rant>
I know I'm not saying anything new here. Everyone knows you're supposed to treat your clients well, right? Well, apparently everyone doesn't know this because this little scenario happened just this week and I'll bet it happened a thousand other times this week to other reps.
Think this doesn't happen in your company? It does. Call any one of your sales reps right now and ask. That's OK, I'll wait. Do do do doooo do. See, what did I tell you? Maybe it doesn't happen a lot, but it shouldn't happen at all. Make it stop!
I have a client with a billing problem and she's been trying to work it out with the Home Office for 2 1/2 weeks. This is not a little billing problem, this is a really big billing problem and it's an important client. Here's my first concern - guess how I found out about this? That's right - the client emailed me. I should not be finding out about these things from my clients. Too much trouble for the HO to shoot me a note or call me to say "We've got a problem on XYZ Co., this what it is and we're working on it and will let you know if you need to do anything"? Now, I don't want to hear about every little problem but please use a little common sense to say "Rich needs a heads-up on this" for the big things. This lack of communication makes us both look like idiots.
But wait - there's more. We had a conference call, me, the client and four (count 'em) Home Office staff. Good thing I was there to referee, because the HO people were very defensive about how they'd done things. Apparently, it was the client's fault for not understanding how we were charging them. Notwithstanding the fact that a lot of the charges made no logical sense or that nowhere did we attempt to explain how we arrived at these odd numbers. Clearly, the client was wrong and they should just take our word for it that the charges were correct. Guess what didn't happen.
OK, let me make this perfectly clear: the client is not lucky that we let them do business with us, we are lucky that they have chosen to do business with us. I have seen this attitude for years, at many different companies, that somehow our clients should be thrilled that we allow them to buy our products. Where does that come from and how does it possibly make sense?
We shouldn't put people in a position that they need to change their procedures to match our internal processes. We should know what the clients need and expect. We should be accommodating to them, not the other way around.
There are very few companies in the world who make or do something so unique that a client can't go elsewhere, and get something just (or almost) as good without the condescending attitude. Everyone does it all the time - Bank of America treats you badly? Well, Washington Mutual is right down the street. Is Cingular constantly overcharging you? Switch to T-Mobile. The point is that if your employees are doing that to your clients, your clients will leave. And my reputation gets tarnished in the meantime and, really, that's all I have.
</rant>
I know I'm not saying anything new here. Everyone knows you're supposed to treat your clients well, right? Well, apparently everyone doesn't know this because this little scenario happened just this week and I'll bet it happened a thousand other times this week to other reps.
Think this doesn't happen in your company? It does. Call any one of your sales reps right now and ask. That's OK, I'll wait. Do do do doooo do. See, what did I tell you? Maybe it doesn't happen a lot, but it shouldn't happen at all. Make it stop!
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